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03-29-2011, 12:54 AM
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Commander
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 291
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In need of insurance
So this winter I had a claim (about $4k) paid by Travelers Insurance. We have used them for 4 years, and always pay the policy in full with one payment. I just got a letter from them saying they are canceling my policy in May and will not renew it "due to recent claims". They made us open two claims at the time the work was being done because the second claim was not discovered until they opened everything up and discovered it. I asked them if this could just be added to the claim I filed and they said it needed to be a separate claim. WTF!?
Well, Travelers is not only losing my boat policy, they are now losing my home, and two auto policies.
Anybody recommend an ETHICAL insurer?
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03-29-2011, 01:34 AM
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Commander
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 393
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgreenwell8962
d an ETHICAL insurer?
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Surely you jest, talk about an oxymoron.............
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03-29-2011, 02:22 AM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NY/NJ
Posts: 111
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I just left Travelers too
I just left Travelers after 7 years. Switched my marine,auto and home owners insurance elsewhere. The problem I had with them was they continually raised my rates despite never having a claim. My Allstate guy recommended Global Marine Insurance Agency (A1 rating). My premium is less with better coverage. It kicks in later this month so it's too soon to give an opinion. Good luck...
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03-29-2011, 02:46 AM
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Johnston, Iowa, United States
Posts: 79
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I use BoatUS. They provide their insurance through CNA. I had my boat insured through Nationwide, but found the coverage better with BoatUS for about half the premium.
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03-29-2011, 04:11 AM
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Admiral
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Everett Wa
Posts: 4,681
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I have my 2 cars...home....boat...(past boats too)...and million dollar rider from State farm...I've had them for over 24 yrs and they have always taken care of me...I've had a few claims...one from my home where the toilet water line let loose in the middle of the nite....about 13k later..I had a new first floor....we came down to 2" of water in my family room...they paid everything and didn't blink.....
when I first got my 340..we went on a week long vacation..I accidently touched another bow on a tolley craft boat...I had my bow checked out...no damage...about a yr and a few months later I get this letter I'm being sued by the tolley owner for damage sustained from our collision..(WTF???...WHAT DAMAGE!!)...I contacted my ins. agent...told her what happened...she told the guy to prove it was me that caused his water damage.....I don't mind paying for what I do...but not after a yr and a few months..they told him several times thru letters and phone calls....the burden of proof is on your shoulders....got anything???....no....???...
so...I've been really happy with my agent....after 15 yrs...she's been there....
SP
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03-29-2011, 04:57 PM
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Commander
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 289
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Like a good neighboor, right SP? I too have State Farm for the last 16 years and have nothing but good luck in the insurance department. Give your local agent a call.
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03-29-2011, 05:31 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Puget Sound, WA
Posts: 180
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Rich - Farmers played a similar game with us a few years back - we had been customers for 25 years and this was my first claim. I still get a snail mail from them once a month stating "they would love to have us back" and I have to chuckle. Riiight.
We moved the cars/house/moto-toys to Progressive and saved a considerable amount on money for the same coverage. The marine policy however was a much better deal through BoatUS, even while separate. We also setup a discounted policy for Vessel Assist (towing) through the BoatUS site. Worth looking into.
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03-29-2011, 05:57 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,687
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I have heard good things about Progessive. I've had issues with denial of a claim from The Hartford. I'm currently looking at Progressive and Boat US myself. Both are requiring a new survey, so once that is completed, I will see who has the best premium rates for similar coverage.
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03-29-2011, 07:08 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fairfax Va
Posts: 1,512
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Our boat is also insured with Progressive. Cannot comment on customer service thou because we've made no claims at this point, but I have heard some not so flattering comments about them. But, to be fair, I've heard unflattering comments about all the major Ins. Co's - except Boat US.
That's interesting, Shrew, about them requiring a survey - I wonder if it depends on the type/size of the boat. When I signed up with Progressive they did not require a survey at all.
Dan
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03-29-2011, 08:01 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Everett Wa
Posts: 4,681
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it's mainly yr.....the older the boat...the more likely an insurance company will require a survey...or it might be because it's financed.....
SP
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Don't compare your life to others. You have no idea what their journey is all about.
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SSN683 Association member
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2008 Bayliner 340 - "Wild Whim"
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I live in my own little world....but it's okay-they know me here!!!
Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.
Tap-Rack-Bang
Anyone that sez "Size doesn't matter" has never owned a boat!
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03-29-2011, 10:08 PM
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Commander
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 291
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Its a 2001, and not financed. Travelers can kiss my ass. I am pulling my two car policies as well as my house policy. If this were a medical claim it would be criminal. What a bunch of sh$#%heads.
Quote:
Originally Posted by seapuppy
it's mainly yr.....the older the boat...the more likely an insurance company will require a survey...or it might be because it's financed.....
SP
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03-29-2011, 10:38 PM
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Commander
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 291
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UPDATE
"We sincerely apologize for any misunderstanding that may have occurred. At the time of this filing, we were not aware that we held multiple lines (house, 2 cars). We are rescinding the cancellation on your boat policy immediately."
Makes me even more comfortable that they did their due diligence to see how many of my polices they held before sending me a letter.
Too late assholes!
See ya later Travelers!!!!!
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03-30-2011, 12:08 AM
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Admiral
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Everett Wa
Posts: 4,681
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wow..nice of them to reconcider......not...
head for the hills....
SP
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Don't compare your life to others. You have no idea what their journey is all about.
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SSN683 Association member
Par Excellence
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2008 Bayliner 340 - "Wild Whim"
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I live in my own little world....but it's okay-they know me here!!!
Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.
Tap-Rack-Bang
Anyone that sez "Size doesn't matter" has never owned a boat!
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03-30-2011, 12:58 AM
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Commander
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 291
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My first call was to a good friend who is my insurance broker. Pricing all my policies out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by seapuppy
wow..nice of them to reconcider......not...
head for the hills....
SP
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03-30-2011, 02:59 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,687
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I own the title free and clear. I suspect the reason is I am trying to raise the value of the policy and it is a 1997 model.
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03-30-2011, 07:33 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 139
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When we switched from our Maxum to Carver last summer, we made a deal with the seller that for 5k less than his lowest price, we'd take the boat the next week not pending any survey (after having completely gone over the boat and building in the possibility of one new engine). We specifically insured with Progressive last summer on our new-to-us Carver because they didn't ask for a survey. It was a few hundred dollars higher than the rest, so this spring we'll probably get a 'basic insurance survey,' and re-shop for cheaper insurance. The only reason we won't go with Boat US insurance is because they mandate using their on-water towing coverage. Near us Sea Tow dominates, so we don't want to switch. We're also open to economical suggestions.
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