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08-04-2014, 02:55 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2014
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31 ft Maxum
Bought 2003 31ft Maxum. Supposed to have 78 hrs on engines. owner say one hour meter was wrong because key was left on. After engine problem, computer said engines had 300 hrs. I hate liars. He also hid otherr problems. Surveyor couldn't see. Paid more because of hors and got screwed.l Oh well, still love the Maxum. Thinking of selling generator off of it.
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08-04-2014, 03:54 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lake Powell
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300 hours on a 2003 is not a bad thing.
Why sell the Genny? It will add value when you get ready to sell as well as be a nice feature on the boat when you are away from the dock.
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08-04-2014, 04:37 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: central Illinois
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08-04-2014, 04:52 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
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Sorry to hear you got screwed. I agree with the others that 300 hours is not bad for the boats age.
The cost to remove the genny may not make if worth selling plus you will need to cap off the old exhaust. I would leave it be.
Where did you get the surveryor? If recommended by the place selling he may have been more interested at helping sell as they give him business.
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1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2
Mike
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08-04-2014, 07:33 PM
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Commander
Join Date: Jan 2014
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someone should have pulled the hours off the computer for you. that's easy to do. regardless 300 hours is nothing.
hell I put 210 hours on my center console the first season I got it. mostly trolling though.
enjoy the boat!
we are in our first year with a '98 2800 scr. love it! Maxums are great boats for the money. the first year will always cost you a bit to get it the way you want and work through any issues that come up.
enjoy it.
BB
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08-05-2014, 01:03 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Congrats on the new boat. To bad the seller was not honest. Post some pictures.
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08-10-2014, 02:56 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2014
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The generator weigh's so much and takes all the room in engine compartment. I just can't see carrying all that extra weight. I bought the boat in Harrison Twp. I got the boat surveyor off the internet. Owner was not real happy with surveyor as he valued it lower than he was asking by quite a bit. The guy was so dishonest on everything. Thinking about talking to lawyer as I still have all of his emails.
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08-10-2014, 03:21 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2014
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I had Morman baot surveyor in Harrison Twp.
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08-10-2014, 03:45 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
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It sounds like you did what you could to protect yourself. A standard surveyor usually knows minimal info on engines and a specialty one who checks drive train is required.
Best of luck with the boat and do not this sour your enjoyment of her.
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1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2
Mike
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08-11-2014, 02:09 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2008
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The key on won't advance the hour meter. Only the engine running will do that.
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08-11-2014, 03:00 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 136
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Disappointed in boat. Went out yesterday and couldn't plane out with 8 people. I did once but when I shifted direction I couldn't. I did have a full tank plus the generator. 99 maxum would always plane out. once with 14 people. I am going to check trim tabs
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08-11-2014, 03:30 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lake Powell
Posts: 1,613
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What engine / outdrive package do you have?
Did you sea trial the boat before buying it? It sounds like a lot of items that should have been identified as issue during inspection and sea trial are popping up after the purchase.
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08-11-2014, 05:18 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: central Illinois
Posts: 2,294
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Yeah Diddo on that!!....Uncleted any thoughts on my table? huh huh?
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09-12-2014, 03:39 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 136
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Not satisfied with my purchase. Boat doesn't plain out right. Sound like it cavitates in 5-6 ft waves. No room in engine compartment. Should have bought 2002 33 ft. Over paid. I will check tabs and trim when I pull the boat. The guy was a liar and cheat. Claimed boat was in such great shape and hardly used. I guess I'll make the best of it. B-break O-out A-another T-thousand
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09-12-2014, 04:14 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lake Powell
Posts: 1,613
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Call these guys and I bet they can set you up with a 4x4 prop that will help the issue with getting on plane:
http://hillmarine.com/?gclid=CPOPzLv728ACFchgfgodrDQASg
Did the boat get out of the hole ok during the sea trial?
Did you sea trial?
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09-13-2014, 03:50 PM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 186
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Roger, I am interested in the 30" table. I am in NY how much including shipping?
Chris
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09-13-2014, 11:55 PM
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: North Bend, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phillbo
What engine / outdrive package do you have?
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Ditto... Also, how many gallons of fuel, water and was the holding tank empty or full?
How much did any additional gear you had onboard at the time weigh?
What were the current and wind conditions when you were trying to step up on a plane?
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"Firefly" - 2003 Maxum 3100 SCR Twin 5.0L/BIIIs
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09-14-2014, 06:31 PM
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Admiral
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
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Boating with a 31 ft in 5 - 6 ft seas? That's 1/5 the length of the boat, would not find me doing this. Cavitates under these conditions, how can you even get the boat to plane in such waters?
Yep you have made it clear the PO took advantage of you, IMO time to get over it and make the best of it as you said.
So as the others have asked, what engine package, weight, fuel ,....
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1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
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09-15-2014, 02:35 PM
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A 31 Planing with 8 adults? That is asking a lot of any brand express cruiser unless you had twin 496/502's. It's going to cavitate in 5-6 footers. Look at how far back the prop is compared to the transom. The hull starts to teeter-totter in this range, unless you take them almost to beam. This will raise the prop out of the water as you crest each peak. Even with two people on the boat, in 5-6's, we end up running around 18-21kts. Any faster and we're really getting banged up. I wouldn't expect to do 25kts in 5-6 foot seas regardless of how many people are on the boat. Though this would really vary depending on the frequency. I assume we're talking the typical 5-6 stacked up tight. 5-6 at 20 seconds would be long rollers and more easily handled.
What you're describing would apply to ANY express cruiser in that size range. I think your expectations are unrealistic.
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09-16-2014, 03:05 AM
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 136
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I have 5.0 engines with fuel injection and Bravo 3's. I did have a full tank of gas. I had the same 5.0 engines in my 1999 30 ft. It was actually 33 1/2 ft long with 9' 8" beam. 31 is 29'10" with 10 1/2 beam, bravo 2's. That boat would plane out with 12 people on board. and most time with 3 or 4 people, I never touched the tabs. I have also been in 8 to 10 ft waves and didn't like the ride, but never cavitated.
I think I'm going to look for the plastic table for the cockpit. But I will let you know if I decide differently. Thank You
Just put boat back up for sale on Craigs list.
Love this sight. Nice to talk with other Maxum owners. I have people call it a Bayliner. I have had four Maxum's and love them. wish they would still make the. Good boat biggercegar- you seem to know your boats. I've been in it 40 years and still learning. Yes I did sea trial and everything seemed good. Of course the idiot had an empty tank of gas
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