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Old 06-24-2016, 02:27 PM   #1
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I have a EZ Loader trailer and was wondering if it has free baching brakes when backing up?
How can I tell if I remove the drums?
And how do I disable this without disabling the brakes?
Any help would be great!
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I am installing a Electric over Hydraulic brake kit, asI do not like surge brakes, I live and tow in the mountains.
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:43 PM   #2
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On surge brakes the master cylinder on the tongue should have a pin that you insert to lick out the breaks when backing. The brakes themself do not have any mechanism for this.
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Old 06-25-2016, 02:57 AM   #3
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THANKS!
I WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK, BUT i DONT REMEMBER SEEING ANY KIND OF PIN AT THE COUPLER!
YOU GUYS ARE GREAT,QUICK ANSWERS AND ALL!

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Best of Luck don.

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Old 06-27-2016, 05:46 PM   #5
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Check your drums against the picture at the link below. It explains free backing brakes. Make sure your truck has the wiring for the electric brake controller!

Selecting Trailer Brakes | West Marine

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Old 06-27-2016, 09:42 PM   #6
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Hi Tim
Thanks for the info.
I cked the web site and that looks like what I have!
I was hoping not to have free backing brakes as I am putting on a electric over hydraulic system on the trailer. I dont like surge brakes on this large of boat. (2400 SCR)
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:09 PM   #7
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Hi Tim
Thanks for the info.
I cked the web site and that looks like what I have!
I was hoping not to have free backing brakes as I am putting on a electric over hydraulic system on the trailer. I dont like surge brakes on this large of boat. (2400 SCR)
Thanks
Don
I have seen the units for $600 but it would also require me to redo the couple holes and mount on the tongue.
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Old 06-28-2016, 03:18 AM   #8
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Hi Tim
Ya I know, I got the Hydrastar unit. Have not started the conversion yet as we are headed to friends for the 4th and will be gone for about a week and a half
I think I am going to half to eliminate the free backing system,I hate surge brakes!
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Hi Tim
Ya I know, I got the Hydrastar unit. Have not started the conversion yet as we are headed to friends for the 4th and will be gone for about a week and a half
I think I am going to half to eliminate the free backing system,I hate surge brakes!
Thanks
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Let us know how the conversion goes. I would like to know the coupler you choose and how easily it mounts. I had to replace my entire brake system six months ago and just replaced everything with what was already there. I also replaced the coupler with the same model and a new brake hose from Karavan keeping the surge brakes set up. Also, since I use it in salt water I made my own flush system out of garden hose fittings and soda machine line.





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Looks good!
Thankfully I dont do salt water anymore, or at least I am not planing on it!
Just lakes and rivers.
I have what is left of a brake flush system on my trailer, hoses are just hanging there, will have to do something with them as I do the brakes!
I live in the foothills so it up and down hills, hard on on the tow brakes!
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:26 AM   #11
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Hi everyone!
Just to let you know I finshed my trailer brk conversion and it was a hassle with hyd leaks! But after I got all leaks repaired I did a road test WOW what a difference!
The trailer now stops itself!!!! No more having to press brk peddle hard, same peddle pressure as with empty truck!
Replaced all 4 backing plates and new drumbs with Hydrastar 1200 psi marine unit!
Better brks than my travel trailer with electric brks!
Sorry I did not take any photos!
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Is that a electric over hydraulic conversion?
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Old 11-12-2016, 02:11 AM   #13
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Hi Phillbo!
Yes it is and it great!
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Old 11-14-2016, 05:06 AM   #14
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FYI I've owned several boats that I converted to electric trailer brakes (RV type) Usually your existing drums can be used. I removed the surge coupler and welded on a Bulldog type unit. You need a brake controller, but most new pickups come with then. They work great and are adjustable. Something to consider. Best regards, Tractormel
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