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08-07-2018, 02:48 PM
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Ensign
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Holding tank y-valve
does anyone know where the y-valve is for the holding tank on a 1999 41 SCR?
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08-07-2018, 03:07 PM
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There may (probably) isn't one. These are typically routed from the head to the holding tank. Then from the holding tank to a macerator. From the macerator overboard. If the overboard discharge is in the hull below the waterline, there will be a seacock. If it is routed above the waterline (like they did in most 1999 models) there will be no seacock.
The Y valve was for a setup where the discharge went from the head either directly to the holding tank or directly overboard. The Y valve would select the destination. That is an old configuration setup not commonly practiced by 1999.
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08-07-2018, 03:10 PM
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Locate the holding tank. Locate the sanitation lines that are routed from the bottom, or the bottom of the side of the tank. One should routed to the pump-out deck plate. The other should be routed to the macerator. Then follow the line from the macerator to the throughull discharge.
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08-07-2018, 04:09 PM
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Ensign
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I thought it is a coast guard requirement to have a shut off valve to protect from an accidental discharge?
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08-07-2018, 04:56 PM
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It is. That would be the seacock in line at the thru hull.
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08-07-2018, 05:04 PM
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Admiral
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klmuench
I thought it is a coast guard requirement to have a shut off valve to protect from an accidental discharge?
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The requirement is that you must simultaneously hold two momentary switches to activate the macerator pump to discharge overboard.
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08-07-2018, 06:58 PM
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4100 SCA here ... so location might not jive - located right under the pump out deck fitting. Here's what mine looks like.
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08-07-2018, 07:27 PM
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Ensign
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmwjr
The requirement is that you must simultaneously hold two momentary switches to activate the macerator pump to discharge overboard.
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Thank you very much. That give me my answer
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08-08-2018, 04:58 PM
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It doesn't 'require' a Y or three-way valve. There are alternative options. If discharged below the hull, then a seacock is sufficient. If discharged above the hull, twin momentary-on switches wired in series can be used. These require that both switches be actively held simultaneously in order to discharge from the macerator.
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08-08-2018, 05:29 PM
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Admiral
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Why the padlock? If it's there to prevent discharge what stops you from removing it if you have the key (I assume you do).
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08-08-2018, 06:43 PM
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Regulations call for prevention of accidental discharge. This means you would have to go thru some motions intentionally to move to the overboard selection. Locks, zip ties and even removing the valve handle are different ways I've seen to address this..
it took quite a bit of discussion with the CG boarding party a few years ago to prove that the two rocker switch design was satisfactory to meet the regs. They are momentary switches, so they have to be held down and they require both hands.
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08-08-2018, 06:52 PM
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Admiral
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I've seen zip ties and the handles removed, just never a padlock.
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08-10-2018, 05:51 AM
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The pad lock prevents inadvertently lining up the system to discharge overboard via the macerator when within 3nm of the coast. To pump over board I'd have to unlock and reposition the Y value, open the overboard discharge seacock and energize the macerator pump.
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08-10-2018, 05:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phillbo
Why the padlock? If it's there to prevent discharge what stops you from removing it if you have the key (I assume you do).
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I do have the key.
The pad lock prevents inadvertently lining up the system to discharge overboard via the macerator when within 3nm of the coast. To pump over board I'd have to unlock and reposition the Y value, open the overboard discharge seacock and energize the macerator pump.
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