Go Back   Maxum Boat Owners Club - Forum > Maxum General > Engines
Click Here to Login
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-02-2020, 09:02 PM   #1
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 112
Default 3 blade prop to 4 blade

Hey Everyone!

I’ve been doing a lot of research on holeshot/water skiing and would like to change from a 3 blade to a 4. I also would like greater control at lower speeds. We don’t have a system where I live that you can borrow props and test them out, so trying to get this right first time (if I can!)
Boat is a 2001 Maxum 1800SR. I have an Alpha1 gen2 1.8gear outdrive connected to a Mercruiser 4.3 LH 1996 engine. Engine Manual Says MAX RPM at WOT should be 4400 to 4800.

Out on the water I get exactly 3000 RPM (not a typo!) at WOT according to the dash RPM meter with speed roughly 40MPH. They are newish gauges and do not know if they were calibrated correctly?

Two adults on the boat, a full fuel tank and nothing really extra in weight. The current prop is a Solas Aluminium 14.3” with 21” pitch SOL1511-143-21 which was on the boat when I bought it. I genuinely feel this is over propped in some way.

Couple of questions after a few weeks of research on here and youtube:
  • I feel that a 21” pitch at 3000 RPM should be performing a little better than 3000RPM? Shouldn’t it be up in the 3800-4000 region?
  • Should I buy a manual tachometer and check the belt?
  • What size pitch should I be aiming for if I do get a 4 blade? I read every inch in pitch roughly equals 150-200RPM give or take…. and to also drop 2 pitches going from a 3 to 4 blade
  • My gut says 15” pitch on a Solas 4 blade? Don’t seem to see any lower than 15 at the local shop.

Would love to get a stainless steel but feel I should “try” an aluminium first in case I break it (again!)
Many thanks as always!
__________________

fester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2020, 11:53 PM   #2
Captain
 
jrsick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 556
Default

Fester, I'd first recommend that you make sure your tach is working correctly. There is a selector knob on the back of the tach, make sure it is set on "6". You can also get a loaner tach from an auto parts store.
Low speed control is always a challenge in an 18 ft boat with planing hull. The hull creates turbulence for your prop. You can try trimming the drive out a little more.
I'd recommend against a 4 blade prop, but that is just my opinion. A 3 blade prop gives plenty of bite for your size boat and motor. Blade pitch is much bigger factor than number of blades. Is your boat a dog during hole shot now?
With you motor and 1.8 ratio, you should have not trouble getting to at least 4k rpm with the 21p blade. I suspect there is a wrong number here somewhere and my guess would be the tach.
__________________

jrsick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2020, 01:08 AM   #3
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marin County, California
Posts: 65
Default

I considered going to a 4 blade also. My 1995 SCR 2400 with Bravo 2 is running 18 1/4 X19 3 blade prop and performs very well. I repowered 11 years ago with a 350 MPI Mercruiser Horizon and added the Merc Monitor that reads off the ECM. It shows my analog Tach running high by 120rpm. I can get to 46 mph at WOT at 5K rpm so found no reason to go to 4 blade.
Calguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2020, 01:57 AM   #4
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: B.C. Canada
Posts: 128
Default

I have a 21’ with a 350 and I went from a 3 blade 21 pitch to a 4 blade 21 pitch as my WOT was a few hundred RPM low and I would never go back. Boat performed well with the 3 blade but the hole shot is incredible now and I stay on plane at significantly lower speed which is great as I pull my kids on the tube. I also noticed a vast improvement on “prop walk”, the boat is way more controllable at low speeds, it really improved the slow speed control. I lost about 6 miles per hour of top speed but I don’t care as I never run wide open anyway but it still pulls 48-50MPH if I needed it to.

Just my 2 cents,


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Kellen

2000, 2100SR 5.7 Alpha 1 Gen 2
Overboard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2020, 04:42 AM   #5
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marin County, California
Posts: 65
Default

Hey Overboard ....you now have me interested in trying out a 4 blade prop. Just have to get the right size....
Calguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2020, 03:58 PM   #6
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 112
Default

Thanks @jrsick. I had a look at the back of the gauge and you are right.. It does look off. The engine is a V6 and its currently set to 8 cycles? I'm slightly confused between cycles vs poles however I'm guessing this should be set to 6 CYL at position 2 on the gauge setting?
Attached Thumbnails
20200607_143906.jpg  
fester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2020, 05:28 PM   #7
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 112
Default

Sorry just occurred to me 6CYL is probably cylinder? #Noob!
__________________
Proud owner of a 2001 Maxum 1800SR.
Engine: 2023 Mercruiser 4.5L 250HP
Outdrive: Alpha1 Gen2 with 1.6gear
Keen interest in anything electronic or gadget related!
fester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2020, 01:34 AM   #8
Admiral
 
mmwjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Essex, Maryland
Posts: 10,624
Default

You got it!
__________________
1997 Silverton 362, 7.4 Crusaders
1997 2400 SCR, 5.7 Vortec / Bravo 2

Mike
mmwjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2020, 11:13 PM   #9
Captain
 
jrsick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 556
Default

Good find Fester. That still puts your WOT at 4000 rpm though. A 17p will make your boat leap on your hole shot. 3 or 4 blades at this pitch will give you a significant improvement.
jrsick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2020, 07:10 PM   #10
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 112
Default

OMG! the boat is like a bullet!.. I went for a 4 blade 17 pitch stainless and it just jumps on plane. I never knew the engine could be that powerful. It even sounds much better and its only at 4200RPM on the gauge. Maybe I should have gone for 15" .. Control at slower speed is much much better! I also tried 4 burly adults on the boat and a ski'er towed on the back with no bother to it at all.. It still jumped on plane asking for more..............

Thanks so much everyone.. I am beyond ecstatic!
__________________
Proud owner of a 2001 Maxum 1800SR.
Engine: 2023 Mercruiser 4.5L 250HP
Outdrive: Alpha1 Gen2 with 1.6gear
Keen interest in anything electronic or gadget related!
fester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2020, 03:33 AM   #11
Lt. Commander
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: B.C. Canada
Posts: 128
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fester View Post
OMG! the boat is like a bullet!.. I went for a 4 blade 17 pitch stainless and it just jumps on plane. I never knew the engine could be that powerful. It even sounds much better and its only at 4200RPM on the gauge. Maybe I should have gone for 15" .. Control at slower speed is much much better! I also tried 4 burly adults on the boat and a ski'er towed on the back with no bother to it at all.. It still jumped on plane asking for more..............

Thanks so much everyone.. I am beyond ecstatic!

Awesome!! Glad the 4 blade worked out.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________

__________________
Kellen

2000, 2100SR 5.7 Alpha 1 Gen 2
Overboard is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.